Managed to trap the *38 female and caught one of the males.

We had some carrier malfunction. First I tried to take Rufus, but he was not in a good mood and when I had him Sylvia had problems opening the carrier. In the end we had to give up.

Then another male cat came along. Sylvia said that he would not let people touch him but I just tried and he let me stroke him. I got a good grip at the neck and dropped him in the carrier then the door came off...we managed to put it back. Later I tied up both carriers ( Mohan had warned me that those carriers are not safe). The female went into the trap smoothely and then  the difficult part was the transfer to the carrier but it also went quite smoothly... Sylvia is a good trapping partner!  

I'll name the 2 cats Frieda and Frodo!

Oops...forgot to take pics. with all the worry about Nushi. Frieda is a ticked tabby with long straight tail. Frodo looks similar but bigger size. Frodo is actually one  of the cats under Haz' care. She calls him Ao.